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    Torriential Tribute and Bottomless Trap Hole

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    Toushiro Hitsugaya
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    Torriential Tribute and Bottomless Trap Hole

    Post  Toushiro Hitsugaya on Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:54 pm

    Heres the question:
    U'r opponent has a Pyramid Turtle. U have a Blizzard Dragon and a facedown Bottomless Trap Hole or Torrential Tribute.
    U atk Pyramid Turtle with your luster dragon. As soon as the turtle is sent to the grave the opponent summons vampire lord.

    ---AND CUT---

    Heres the question: As soon as Vampire lord is summoned can u use Bottomless Trap hole or Torrential Tribute?

    Please answer Sad

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    Re: Torriential Tribute and Bottomless Trap Hole

    Post  Assassin on Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:33 pm

    Bottomless Trap Hole or torrential cannot be activated during the Damage Step.


    And once you leave the Damage Step, the last thing to occur
    was not a monster with an ATK of 1500 or higher being Special Summoned,
    so you have now lost the timing to activate BTH or torrential
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    Re: Torriential Tribute and Bottomless Trap Hole

    Post  Unkown on Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:24 pm

    Torrential Tribute or Bottomless Trap hole cannot be activated in Damage Step( as Assasin said)but when Vampire lord is summoned it isn't damage step since the battle between Luster and Turtle ended, so it is in the battle face. And still you cannot activate it. It is not fast enough its a normal trap, you can activate forced back, which is a counter trap, in the battle phase to negate a summoning.

    Only counter traps are fast enough to be activated in damage steps OR on the card's description there is : This card can only be activated during damage step or battle phase.

    Hope this helps.
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    Re: Torriential Tribute and Bottomless Trap Hole

    Post  Amnael de Zang on Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:00 am

    Unkown wrote:Torrential Tribute or Bottomless Trap hole cannot be activated in Damage Step( as Assasin said)but when Vampire lord is summoned it isn't damage step since the battle between Luster and Turtle ended, so it is in the battle face. And still you cannot activate it. It is not fast enough its a normal trap, you can activate forced back, which is a counter trap, in the battle phase to negate a summoning.

    Only counter traps are fast enough to be activated in damage steps OR on the card's description there is : This card can only be activated during damage step or battle phase.

    Hope this helps.

    Actually, after Luster Dragon attacks the Pyramid Turtle, when Vampire Lord is summoned by the Turtle effect is still damage step.

    Remeber:

    The damage calculation is the third step, then it goes where all monsters have their effects resolved such as don zaloog, arknight parshat, flip effects.. .etc!
    The next comes when the monster cards that are considered destroyed by battle are sent to the graveyard, on this step is when Turtle activates its effect and Special Summon the Vampire Lord. So in this case you cannot activate Torrential nor Bottomless since this cards cannot be activated on damage step, also you cannot activate Solemn Judgment to negate the summon of VL because it was special summoned by the effect of turtle (Solemn Ruling).

    In case VL is destroyed and summoned by its own effect then you can use torrential/bottomless/solemn

    I hope I made the point clear xD
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    Re: Torriential Tribute and Bottomless Trap Hole

    Post  Toushiro Hitsugaya on Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:37 pm

    Oh xD
    thanks for telling me what happens Smile
    and Amnael De Zang,you couldnt have clarified it more Razz

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